AnonyMouse_12845 Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 Hi I was wondering if anyone had a copy of their plaster consent form. I am acting manager of a day nursery and would like some guidance on this matter. Thanks appreciate the help!
AnonyMouse_3139 Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 Hi starsky, I havent seen a plaster consent form, but you might be interested in this Health and safety executive
AnonyMouse_12845 Posted April 24, 2010 Author Posted April 24, 2010 Thanks I had seen this poster somewhere on my travels but was still told that it is best to have a consent form from parents. I think it is fine to put one on myself.....a little plaster makes it all better! We ask for any allergies when a child is registered with us so we would be aware of this kind of allergy. Thanks x
AnonyMouse_30128 Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 who's asking you to get permission? hypoallergenic plasters are made of the same stuff as micropore ( the tape you would use to attach a bandage) so if you are going to get permission for plasters you probably should ask if you can do first aid on thier children! ( i'm only joking - just fed up of superscilious paperwork being dumped on us )
Guest Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 We dont have a specific form for plasters. We ask parents if their child has any allergies, if they so no then as far as we are concerned they aren't allergic to plasters. We only have hypo allergenic ones anyway. We do ask permission for us to administer 1st Aid.
Guest Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 One of our staff was previously told on their first aid training that you should ask permission to apply plasters. we have a form outlining the procedure for first aid and the procedure in event of an emergency. Form includes a list of all contents of first aid kit - parents sign to give consent for first aid and can cross out any items they don't want used on their child. they then give their consent for emergency treatment.
AnonyMouse_22106 Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 Our permission/consents aren't separate forms it is one ever expanding list I give/do not give permission for the use of hypo allergenic plasters on my child ore words to that affect
AnonyMouse_13453 Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 Ours is on the registration form Do you give your permission for your child to receive basic First Aid at the group, including the use of plasters or creams by a qualified First Aider, and/or for the group to seek emergency medical aid. Yes/No (Please sign if permission is given) ________________________________________________________________________________ _____________
AnonyMouse_30128 Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 sorry to be a pain cait but creams have recently been banned so you might need to change that bit
AnonyMouse_13453 Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 Please could you tell me where the legislation is so I can present it to the committee?
AnonyMouse_30128 Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 just been told at our first aid course - May have been from health and safety executive will try to find out for you quote from pre-med health care "Do NOT put sprays, antiseptic wipes, creams, lotions, tablets or medicines in a first aid kit intended for use on children" will get beck to you about the source!
AnonyMouse_13453 Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 No, not at all, it was more of a 'resigned' "Ok, thanks" in a "Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose" type of way. (wish they'd stop changing things and trying to catch us all out - that's what it feels like" The only cream we use is arnica on unbroken skin, and Mrs O was ok with that. There's no antiseptic cream or tablets or antiseptic wipes in the box, or tablets ...........
AnonyMouse_30128 Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 I know the feeling - always thinking i may have missed out on something and the only one who will notice is ofsted.... (they are not my favourite people as they messed our inspection up so much they had to re-do - after i complained!!) to be fair i think this is new legislation - our first aid trainer trains the paramedics! oh and the doctors!! you may want to re-think the arnica too! OMG BETTER GO BEFORE YOU KILL ME!!!
AnonyMouse_13453 Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 well if parents have given their consent for it to be used .............
AnonyMouse_30128 Posted April 25, 2010 Posted April 25, 2010 sorry cait we've been told unless it's perscribed for that child you can't use it i guess just in case they have an allergic reaction to it. We have on one occassion been able to get a doctor to perscribe aveeno cream for a child with a skin condition
AnonyMouse_12845 Posted April 25, 2010 Author Posted April 25, 2010 Thanks everyone for replies x Very helpful!
Guest jenpercy Posted April 25, 2010 Posted April 25, 2010 Thanks everyone for replies x Very helpful! Antiseptic creams etc have been outlawed in first aid courses for 20+ years. I can remember when we were actually told to stop using them - although these days it is often not mentioned as it is so old hat! actually having just renewed my First Aid, I don't remember allergies to First Aid products bein g mentioned - was I asleep for that bit 12 hours for what we used to do in 6.
Guest Posted May 16, 2010 Posted May 16, 2010 Hi We don't use any creams etc and never have done - but we do use hypoallergenic plasters (with permission), and we too were told at most recent first aid course not to use anything except water on a child! even with permission!!!!!! apparently it is more likely for an allergic reaction to happen the second time a child has been in contact with the substance - so even if something was used at home - there is no guarantee that it would be safe to use on the child at nursery. Hijacking this post but along the lines of paperwork nightmare - at our most recent fire safety check, we were told we needed to do PAT (recording form) for everything which has has a plug on it everytime we use it!!!!!!! Not amused!
AnonyMouse_13453 Posted May 16, 2010 Posted May 16, 2010 we were told we needed to do PAT (recording form) for everything which has has a plug on it everytime we use it!!!!!!! Not amused! even the kettle for a brew!
Guest jenpercy Posted May 16, 2010 Posted May 16, 2010 Back to good old Health & Safety myths http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/july.htm We have our bouncy castle blower PAT checked reguarly (it's made of metal - and we were once advised it was LIVE!! But a lot of equipment such as computers cannot be PAT tested.
AnonyMouse_19782 Posted May 16, 2010 Posted May 16, 2010 Our equipment is PAT tested every year by the owners of the hall, this year we had to throw out an old radio (nobody knew whose it was anyway, it was never used) one of those multi plugs and a plug was changed on something used by the toddler group. Surely testing by daily usage is a little overkill - I didn't watch the guy doing the testing so wouldn't have a clue how to do it anyway - I was made aware that it was to do with a covering on one of the pins on the plug, but that was about all!
Guest jenpercy Posted May 16, 2010 Posted May 16, 2010 Actual PAT testing is done by a machine, so you can't do it yourself. computers, play stations etc cannot be done (I think because it would blow them) I am about to sort out our electrical testing again, so will test further. Our resident expert (Caretaker has own machine) tells me that the most important thing is to check that wiring isn't kinked or that cord isn't pulled away from plug so that inside wires are showing. You could write up that you have done these visual checks more often than once a year, say every one or two months
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