AnonyMouse_38073 Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 Hi i work in a setting where we only do week by week planning (short term). Do you have to do them compulsery or not?? and should you display long term and medium planning.
AnonyMouse_79 Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 If you dont do it, you cant display it! Im not sure any planning is actually compulsory although it should be considered good practice. Long term and short term is sufficient.
AnonyMouse_35577 Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 Long term planning is really easy - we just have a list of the times of year and any festivals themes that occur eg Autumn term would be 'settling in, halloween, bonfire night, divali, xmas etc - only takes half an hour to do 1
Guest Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 my long term tends to have on it fire drills, policy reviewing, 121's, and the usual mothers day, easter etc
AnonyMouse_19762 Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 I'm with Suer on this one.......we don't have 'themes' or 'topics' anymore......so I couldn't really tell you what our 'long term' plans are!!! :blink: :1b 3
AnonyMouse_41426 Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 I class our long term plans as the continuous provision sheets we have in each area stating what resources should be In each area, the practitioners role, and what the children can get out of this area linkied to the EYFS- not sure if this is right though :huh: 1
AnonyMouse_19762 Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 I class our long term plans as the continuous provision sheets we have in each area stating what resources should be In each area, the practitioners role, and what the children can get out of this area linkied to the EYFS- not sure if this is right though :huh: I think it's exactly right! :1b
AnonyMouse_35577 Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 According to my EYFS consultant - the post above is medium term planning - am all confused now!
AnonyMouse_41426 Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 I think its "each to their own" on this subject. I have been at my setting for 17 years and have seen many EYFS consultants come and go. They all do a marvellous job, and offer great support, however I do find that each one has their own remit/ specialist area within the Early years ( at the moment my current consultant is great in helping and supporting with quality assurance and areas of provision, but not so interested in our planning ). My previous consultant was the one who told me to class the continuous provision sheets as our long term plan. I to get confused with it all, but am sticking with what I have for now, and will keep my eyes peeled for something better when I see it 2
Guest Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Actually i can tell you my medium plan...... glass of wine in the garden with a book when we finish the end of term
Guest katylouise1984 Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 REALLY interested in this thread and any other responses? I cant decide how to do my long term plans this time, currently using a themes and celebrations style time based plan and room area plans. Does anyone have the formats they use for the long term environment plans? How do you complete? Practitioner meeting? DO you list EVERYTHING?
Guest Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 We were told recently by our Early Years Advisor that there is no obligation to have long term plans, although it's perfectly ok to do so, so that parents have some idea of what topics might be covered. The only requirment is to show evidence of next steps for each child on the weekly plans, and also contiuous provisions which we have been advised to tag on the bottom of our weekly plans.
Guest Posted July 9, 2012 Posted July 9, 2012 You are right you need long term plans, but for me they are more a diary or planner for the year, i only do them so my staff can see where we ar at and whats coming up i also have it in my diary but that is in my bag and not always at work so at least it is there as reminders of things to do there's another name a 'To do list, creat your own on a spreadsheet you can add what you lik to the coloumns. mine kind of goes (this is from memory) sef, policy updates fire drills, special events ,121's, (probably missed something vital ) with terms 1-6 across the top
AnonyMouse_19802 Posted July 9, 2012 Posted July 9, 2012 You are right you need long term plans, but for me they are more a diary or planner for the year, i only do them so my staff can see where we ar at and whats coming up i also have it in my diary but that is in my bag and not always at work so at least it is there as reminders of things to do there's another name a 'To do list, creat your own on a spreadsheet you can add what you lik to the coloumns. mine kind of goes (this is from memory) sef, policy updates fire drills, special events ,121's, (probably missed something vital ) with terms 1-6 across the top Oooo I do like it when I find I'm actually in sync with someone....who seems to know what theyre doing!! ha ha : ) Thanks Suer
AnonyMouse_3122 Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 I have always done a list for long term of the main festivals etc we will cover. As we do not have topics and plan from the children' s interests this seems sufficient to me. However our EY Advisor has given me a sheet for the whole year which covers the seven areas and expects me to fit in all the aspects of learning into this. I feel this is a step backwards as we plan for the individual child seeing where they have gaps as they go along not fitting into a schedule.
Guest Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) Seems the same to me abijac, i think I would be asking for clarification from your advisor before adding more paperwork to your workload and, at the end of the day, they are only ADVISORS, you need to do what is right for your setting Edited January 9, 2013 by max321
Guest Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 the furthest ahead we work is termly (plan starting points for any 'themes' i.e chinese new year, mothers day etc for that term as well as collect and note down identified next steps from assessment, for those who have them in common, ready to transfer to the weekly sheets. Reflect on the C.P and enhance as needed) and class this as 'medium term' - short term being the weekly stuff long term plan..well that would be the aim of our children achieving everything they need to (and hopefully a little bit more!) at every stage/room - facilitated by the medium and short term plans!! I've been around it all too long now and really can't justify planning too far ahead - there are too many changes in childcare/cohorts/expectations etc to spend precious time on <ducks down in case she's in the wrong!>
Guest Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 abijac put it in the file marked - never to be seen, your children change and so the year goals why make a list for the year what a waste of time. remember they are what they say on the packet - advisors - sorry all advisors out there
Guest Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) I have always done a list for long term of the main festivals etc we will cover. As we do not have topics and plan from the children' s interests this seems sufficient to me. However our EY Advisor has given me a sheet for the whole year which covers the seven areas and expects me to fit in all the aspects of learning into this. I feel this is a step backwards as we plan for the individual child seeing where they have gaps as they go along not fitting into a schedule. our advisor gave us one too - but explained to complete it after we had identified which bits we have covered with the children, at the end of each term - so retrospectively. Works for us as it means, like you we can keep with the focus of putting the children's needs first. She explained it was just to monitor 'coverage' and give rigour to the planning process - a quick tick in the box alongside each area covered. It ensures we don't have a gaping hole in our provision by overlooking something We find it useful and a 5 minute job (because of the way we 'plan') and if it wasn't it would be filed as Sue suggested...like a few other suggestions in years gone by!!. Our advisors are fab and are not precious of their paperwork - as someone has already said they all have their 'thing' and I think we've all fallen victim to taking everything as gospel only for another advisor to come in and say something different! Lessons have been learned (though it took a few years!) and we make things fit us - and if it looks different then so be it; as long as we can all explain it passionately and it impacts positively on the children then I will defend it! at the end of the day it is your setting, your children, your inspection and you have to understand and believe in your paperwork and not let it intrude on your time Edited January 9, 2013 by gingerbreadman
AnonyMouse_19762 Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 at the end of the day it is your setting, your children, your inspection and you have to understand and believe in your paperwork and not let it intrude on your time I really like that gingerbreadman - must copy and 'store' that - even if it's just mentally! :1b
Guest Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 I agree with the paperwork thing. Have stressed and struggled for many a year, changed it, added to it, took bits away etc etc etc. When I asked for advice from an OFSTED Inspector a few years ago - she said "Does it work for you and your setting? If so it is right?" Probably true, we are all different, and each setting varies, and if we make sure it is focusing on the most important part of our job "THE CHILDREN and their UNIQUE LEARNING", then surely we can't go far wrong.......can we??????? Happy weekend all xxx
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