Guest Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Hi all, I am sitting here back to planning for nursery... Looking at the new development matters, and I saw this one: "Begins to break the flow of speech into words" I know this was in the old EYFS and I still have no idea what they mean by it... please help! Thanks! Debbie xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_79 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Robot talk for writing. Children need to understand the concept of a word for early reading and writing to enable them to hear the phonemes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_1999 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Bit of a random question but does anyone have a list of explanations or should i say definition /examples for phonemes, diagraphs, graphemes etc?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_38881 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Not sure if the attached sheet will help. It was given as a handout at a phonics training session.spelling glossary0001.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_1999 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Not sure if the attached sheet will help. It was given as a handout at a phonics training session.spelling glossary0001.pdf Brillaint thank you soooo much 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_3307 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) The letters and sounds packs also describe these. Missing off the sheet is digraph which is basically a phoneme with 2 letters making one sound so e.g. /ch/ or /th/. There are also vowel digraphs such as /ea/ and split digraphs such as in bite, where the ie digraph is separated by another letter bt makes the same sound. Breaking the flow of speech - if you go back into writing development the child will start to chunk letters into random groups, moving on from just letter strings so writing starts to look like conventional words e.g. eelld bees oolld, maybe with or without initial phonemes and usually using letters they know randomly. They are beginning to understand that speech is made up of units of sound that can be isolated either verbally or in writing or reading. Cx Edited September 9, 2012 by catma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 So this would be more for when they actually start using letters in their writing then? I have a little one who is still at the "squiggle" stage, but makes distinct squiggles for each word, and breaks words into sound chunks as she is "writing" ie "hap-py bir-th-day dad-dy" She uses no recognisible letters, but does leave gaps between marks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_79 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I have a little one who is still at the "squiggle" stage, but makes distinct squiggles for each word, and breaks words into sound chunks as she is "writing" ie "hap-py bir-th-day dad-dy" She uses no recognisible letters, but does leave gaps between marks... I would say that is an excellent example of the statement in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 phewww...this is what I thought it meant. Never thought to ask on here though! Thanks for raising it dbrowne 1976 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_5664 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 So the statement doesn't apply to talking only? It applies then to writing only???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_3307 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 It would apply to understanding, but is generally evidenced through writing, because that is where you have to do it most at that stage of writing development. cx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I have never, ever highlighted this one in any of my lj's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_3307 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 From my experience it is a very end of nursery, reception aged writing milestone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_79 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I agree Catma, some children find that very difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_36922 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 I really need help on this statement! I'm trying to plan an activity for my baseline assessments around this. Could any one give me any ideas how I could do this? We have a few writers already in class and I don't know what would be the best way to assess this. Thank you so much in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_3307 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Just looking at their writing will tell you - rather than trying to test for it. Analyse how they write rather than what. Try looking at this, which shows the stages of development http://fourblock.wikispaces.com/file/view/StagesofWritinghandout.pdf. This is referenced to the the classic text for writing develoment http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/The_beginnings_of_writing.html?id=jyMEAQAAIAAJ&redir_esc=y. Cx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_4562 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 I'd love to have a look at this Catma but the link is not working for me. Green Hippo x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_36922 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Hi Catma, Thanks for your reply. So am I right in thinking that I would be looking for separated words within the prephonemic stage? As the example shows 's se suan'? Thank you so much. Heidi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_36922 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 I'd love to have a look at this Catma but the link is not working for me. Green Hippo x Hi the link is http://fourblock.wikispaces.com/file/view/StagesofWritinghandout.pdf Heidi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_3307 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 So am I right in thinking that I would be looking for separated words within the prephonemic stage? That's the one. Cx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_4562 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Thanks - it has worked! x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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