AnonyMouse_15046 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 If a child manages to leave the pre-school building during a busy collection time and is found and brought back in by another parent is the pre-school obliged to inform Ofsted? They have documented the event and since changed their procedures to prevent this from happening again. To my knowledge nobody has made a complaint about the incident. My understanding is that they should have the paperwork available to show Ofsted if requested at their next visit. Am I right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_25331 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 This happened to us a couple of years ago - and Ofsted where completely uninterested and didn't made a record of it! It apparently did not count as an incident because the child did not leave the grounds (ie. premises) although they had left the building - and in our case the Supervisor had actually given the child permission to leave because she mistakenly thought that his carer was in the playground. However, we recorded the conversation with Ofsted and reported everything to the child's parents, as well as all the other parents. We felt that although we didn't have to do anything, it was important to recognise that a 'failure' had taken place, we are all aware of it, take it serously, and will ensure that it doesn't happen again. Maybe it was because of how we handled it, what changes we made, how well be kepy child's parents involved, etc. that they did not feel it necessary to 'complain' to Ofsted, when I think they would have had to investigate. An awful time, but we still got outstanding at our next inspection! Hope similar happens for your setting :1b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_3139 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I think you're right. There might not be a complaint now but that might change when the parent gets time to think about the implications and then Ofsted might want to know why they werent informed. A quick phone call should cover it and then its up to them if they want to check things out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_15046 Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 OK. So there isn't a requirement to inform Ofsted but some people might let them know anyway then. It isn't my setting but someone is criticising a pre-school saying they are not meeting requirements by not informing Ofsted of this incident. I thought I had missed something but perhaps I hadn't. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_19762 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Upsy there is a document 'When to inform Ofsted' - haven't got a copy here - sorry - it's at work - can you see if you can get it from their site.......that should give you a definitive answer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_14268 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 To cover all basis I would contact them and write up a report of the incident and an action plan to make sure it never happens again, I would then keep this in the complaints folder. Better to be up front and proactive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_15046 Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 Upsy there is a document 'When to inform Ofsted' - haven't got a copy here - sorry - it's at work - can you see if you can get it from their site.......that should give you a definitive answer Why didn't I think of that? In fact why have I not got one of those? I will have a look now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_73 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 The requirements to inform OFSTED are worded as 'significant event' (except where it is serious injury accident or death), and as such I would define a child being allowed to leave unsupervised as 'significant'. (consider the what ifs if the child had not been spotted by a parent for example). I am aware of this happening from time to time and each time the setting has informed OFSTED and they have made an unannounced visit (usually to check the security and how the setting has dealt with it to ensure it cant happen again). We would always advise the setting inform OFSTED, but this setting could call their Early Years team and ask for their view on it. Id always take the default view that if in doubt, inform. (and document). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_25331 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Id always take the default view that if in doubt, inform. (and document). I'd agree - but following my post above I should have put that I made a 'no-names' call to Ofsted and asked - they said they didn't need to be notified - but I could then record it in my records! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_15046 Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 The requirements to inform OFSTED are worded as 'significant event' Can you tell me where to find this Mundia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_73 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Im pretty sure it is mentioned in the revised statutory framework, but off hand I cant say which page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_15046 Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 Thanks Mundia. I so wish I had a paper copy of it. It would be so much easier to scan through it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_8466 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I so wish I had a paper copy of it. It would be so much easier to scan through it! My colleague has 'acquired' mine so it isn't to hand. Have you got the pdf? You could just do a word search for 'significant'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_15046 Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) You could just do a word search for 'significant'! I am clearly not very I.T. literate. I would never have thought of that. It is now on my to do list for this morning Edited September 20, 2012 by Upsy Daisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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