AnonyMouse_31752 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Someone mentioned Learning Scales today does anybody know what these are??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_5970 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Perhaps Leuven Scales? You can use these to assess children's wellbeing and involvement in activities. If you do a Google search you'll find out lots about it. But it might not be that at all! :1b 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_31752 Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 sounds a bit like it I think do you use them Beehive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_5970 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 No we don't, but there are probably lots of people about that do, who might tell you more. I have read about them quite a bit and I think they are useful, but to me the Characteristics of Effective Learning are enough for us to assess children's involvement and, up to a point, wellbeing. Having said that I'm no expert on Leuven Scales! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_19762 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Leuven scales.pdf Oh I'm a huge fan of the Leuven scales - we had some super-duper training a few years back in my area - but I'm certain that you could research and would quickly get to grips with the principles :1b 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_31752 Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 thank you sunnyday you are a star xxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 We too use WBI and I am a huge fan, it is deeply embedded in what we do from the children to looking at areas in the pre school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_19733 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 http://www.kindengezin.be/img/sics-ziko-manual.pdf Lots of info here too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_19762 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 The 'Kenters' are out in force! :1b 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_31752 Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 so having had the weekend to have a look over all this lovely information (thank you all) I have a few more questions. Do you all use this as a individual tool or for groups/whole session tool? also do you make up your own ways of recording, I understand the scales etc.. but I notice there are some references to forms that aren't here so wondered if you all just make up your own? I do have some ideas but didn't want to reinvent the wheel or make up my own if there was one I was supposed to use. I am hoping to use the two tables that highlight the wellbeing and the involvement, now I can't see why I can't just start using this even though I haven't been to any training does anybody think there would be any problems? I do have some concerns about making the 'right' judgement but I would imagine that is just being honest and practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_13453 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Hi Johanna, we started using it way before any training came out. I copied the grading pages, laminated them and put them on the wall. We just got used to checking it when we did an observation and used it like that, adding a sentence or two to show where the activity came on the scale. I see no reason why you shouldn't have a go at it. You have read the accompanying materials and are as clued up as we were when we started. Just have a try, there's nothing to lose. It really makes you consider how involved the children are in the activities you provide, and how different this can be with the activities they choose for themselves. Then you use that information to improve your planned activities to tie into those sheer their involvement and well bring was highest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 U can use it but u need a deep understanding of what is a true level 4-5 and what the impact can be and what u can do about lower levels. I tend now only to do individual levels , sometimes I will scan the group. I see my setting in the terms of levels, I look at children and think that's a 4 that's a 5 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 We have added whether they are high, medium or low to our long obs sheets in both well being and involvement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_13453 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Then you use that information to improve your planned activities to tie into those sheer their involvement and well bring was highest. I really must get used to proof reading when I use the iPad as it has other ideas about what I mean! Sorry about that! Tie into those where their involvement .... I think I meant! But yes, it's about a judgement, and you have to be honest, because sometimes it shows that it's what you have planned that isn't engaging the children as it should. It helps you to reflect on what you could do better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_73 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Another big Leuven scales fan here too! Johanna, I would just have a go with the scales, but I do also agree with suer, you do need to be clear about what a high score looks and feels like. It does take time to really distinguish between a clear 5 and the child who is busy but not really doing that much. (around a 3). In my experience, these children are often the ones we can miss in a busy setting, because they are always busy, don't bother anyone, and just get on with things. However, that doesn't mean they are highly engaged. If you want to introduce a team approach to this, its a good idea if you can film a short session with one or two children and really discuss it as a team staff meeting. The more you can talk about what you have seen, the clearer your scoring becomes over time. Go on, give it a go. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_31752 Posted November 12, 2013 Author Share Posted November 12, 2013 (edited) thank you all so much feeling very excited, talked to the team today and they are all on board so we are going to have a go. About to laminate grading pages!!! we actually talked through examples of children and play experiences today and it did really help us to see which bit needs the focus thanks again everyone Edited November 12, 2013 by Johanna1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I'm glad I stumbled across this tonight, I've just downloaded all the books off a belgium website and am going to be using it in my dissertation with primary research - really excitied to see that it works :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sn0wdr0p Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 We have used them for some time and our local authority provides a lot of training about them for settings providing two year funding. They are a really useful tool and pretty quick to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_31752 Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 I'm glad I stumbled across this tonight, I've just downloaded all the books off a belgium website and am going to be using it in my dissertation with primary research - really excitied to see that it works :-) What books were these Taffygirl? have some booklets would they be the same thing or are there other book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_19733 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Just found the second part to this here is the link http://www.kindengezin.be/img/sics-ziko-checklist.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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