AnonyMouse_50986 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Hi, Can anyone offer some guidance on the following please. We have two staff members qualified at a level six so the ratio is 1:13. However is this just for the 3 - 4 year olds can you count children who are 2 and a half in this. ??? So far we follow the ratio 1:4 for the under 3's, and 1: 8 for 3 plus. At times we do go over for the 3plus however we do not go up to 13 for one member. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_30128 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 2 year olds are two year olds and have to be counted in 1:4 to my knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_19762 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 2 year olds are two year olds and have to be counted in 1:4 to my knowledge This is my understanding too - I have to say in addition to this that whatever level of qualification one holds I don't believe it would ever be in the children's best interests to be cared for in a 1:13 ratio but particularly not two year olds........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_9650 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 This is from the 2014 Statutory Framework 3.32. For children aged two: there must be at least one member of staff for every four children; at least one member of staff must hold a full and relevant level 3 qualification; and at least half of all other staff must hold a full and relevant level 2 qualification. The level 6 qualification applies to children aged 3 and over (there is no such thing as a "rising 3" - children are either 2 years old or 3 years old as far as ratios are concerned). I can't say as I would fancy having 13 two year olds in my sole care :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_3735 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) and if you mix children you have to work to the smallest ratio... 2 year olds must be in a 1:4.. you can have 2 @2yrs and 2@3yrs for one person, we used to think of each person having a box of children if there was one 2yr old in that persons box they could only have another 3 added,, be it 2 or 3 yrs.. Edited September 15, 2014 by Inge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_28434 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 We have mixed ages so any child under 3 counts as 2 and and children aged 3-4 count as 1 so each member of staff can add up to 8 - hope this makes sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_3735 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Not sure if that really works as a child of 2 yrs could end up in a 1:6 ratio.. had a friend who used to do it that way and Ofsted were far from happy when they visited.. and were told they were out of ratio . cannot remember the full outcome but know she was paranoid about ratios after that. She was told a person cannot be split and if there is one @2 yrs they could then only have 3@4yrs allocated to them to keep n the correct ratio. No ifs or buts a 2 yr old must be in a 1:4 ratio.. If they have been and said it was ok you have been very lucky. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_50986 Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 Hi everyone, Thank you for your thoughts on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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