AnonyMouse_33773 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Found this on the BBC news website: "According to figures provided by the DfE, the average cost of providing free childcare places per hour is £4.47. The government provides £4.51 per hour for each three-and-four year old on the scheme," Edited March 31, 2015 by Wildflowers
AnonyMouse_30128 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Found this on the BBC news website: "According to figures provided by the DfE, the average cost of providing free childcare places per hour is £4.47. The government provides £4.51 per hour for each three-and-four year old on the scheme," interesting and most of us get substantially less than that ! especially those settings in the north....so what are our lea's doing with the additional funds then? don't see that i get much for my money now! 3
AnonyMouse_3735 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 but isn't it a schools forum that has something to do with the funding levels now? seems to be the case from the last thread I read on how funding is in your area..
AnonyMouse_7120 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 I just worked out my county is keeping £4000+ of my 3/4 yr funding next term, and that is just 1 setting !!! They certainly aren't spending it on training anymore, they've just announced that the x2 vouchers we used to get a year towards first aid has now stopped to, and I'm totally fed up with the county staff who used to present training emailing me offering training as private consultants at ridiculous charges....last week it was SEN at £50 an hour for a consultation or £100 an hour for training 4
AnonyMouse_11396 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Me neither, this is my mission for next term to find out about the schools forum in my area, and more importantly how they arrive at the funding levels currently given in our LA. The funding level based on the government level and the amount we receive equates to a £1.05 shortfall, this amount could make a significant difference to us. Does anybody know whether each LA also receives an amount to administer the funding process or does that also have to come out of the £4.51.
AnonyMouse_5970 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 In our LA we have to apply for 'higher tariff needs' funding for children with significant SEN. We also get a 'disadvantage formula' for children living in a certain postcode. It doesn't amount to much though. I wonder if this comes out of our £4.51
AnonyMouse_7120 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Maybe, but then you have to walk over hot coals to get any SEN funding out of them
Guest Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Why don't you contact the BBC? Sounds to me that this is something the BBC might like to investigate!
AnonyMouse_13453 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Ours was substantially lower than that. We did get deprivation top up, and flexibility top up, but still it didn't come anywhere near £4 per child, I'm pretty sure
AnonyMouse_11396 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Just worked mine out and it's over £6,000. :(:(
AnonyMouse_30128 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Found this on the BBC news website: "According to figures provided by the DfE, the average cost of providing free childcare places per hour is £4.47. The government provides £4.51 per hour for each three-and-four year old on the scheme," could you post the original link please wildflowers? 1
AnonyMouse_11396 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Just worked mine out and it's over £6,000. :(:(
AnonyMouse_1469 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 ours is going up...........................by 5p, to £3.76p per hour..........................from September. from September 2016, schools, childminders and PVI's will receive the same funding of £3.81p. Woop Woop !
AnonyMouse_3139 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-31586248 Is this it??
AnonyMouse_8282 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Looking for the original link, and I found this.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-32118074 I have to say I tend to agree (although only skim read). Maybe it's just our setting, but we have recently had to greatly up our numbers. We had previously always had very good ratios - and now I feel we do not stretch our older children enough- as we are spending more time 'caregiving' to the two year olds. We are now working to min ratios a lot of the time. This is not something I am proud of, our resources are old and worn... I think it is now time for me to leave. We are privately owned, and I don't really think the owner is that interested in the setting, which makes me even more sad.
AnonyMouse_3307 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 but isn't it a schools forum that has something to do with the funding levels now? seems to be the case from the last thread I read on how funding is in your area.. I think this is correct - our schools forum have recently voted to raise funding amounts. There are very strict rules re who can vote on different elements of the funding decisions. We have representatives of private and voluntary settings on the forum. Cx
AnonyMouse_9650 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Maybe we should all write to our schools forums and ask them to provide a detailed breakdown of the early years budget and explain the disparity! 4
AnonyMouse_11396 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 If you type in schools forum within your LA site you should be able to see a list of forum members and agendas and minutes. 1
AnonyMouse_7120 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 I can never find anything on my county website...it has to be the worst site ever
AnonyMouse_3139 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) I can never find anything on my county website...it has to be the worst site ever You're either in Birmingham or havent seen our site!! Edited to say: You wont believe it but Birmingham HAVE a schools forum on their site! Edited April 1, 2015 by Rea 1
AnonyMouse_12960 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Well, I can only say that my 3 and 4 years olds actually cost well more than £4.47 and our lea rate for them is only £4.00.
AnonyMouse_7120 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) I'm in Dorset Rea ....maybe it's just a general thing with county websites lol Edit: Geography has never been a strong point but just for the record I know Birmingham isn't a county lol Edit 2: I couldn't find it by searching the site, but by just googling 'Dorset schools forum' I have Edited April 1, 2015 by Mouseketeer 1
AnonyMouse_30128 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Humm quite tricky to find much information about early years on our forum.....schools however i can tell you all their budgets /sen/ etc etc etc!! :blink:
AnonyMouse_7120 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) Lol just picked a random set of minutes and with correspondence etc it was 204 pages long...don't think I'll be trawling through all of them to find out how funding was set Edited April 1, 2015 by Mouseketeer
AnonyMouse_8282 Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Edit 2: I couldn't find it by searching the site, but by just googling 'Dorset schools forum' I have Found mine this way.... although currently not motivated enough to wade through it at the moment! 1
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