AnonyMouse_4544 Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Our LST has suggested we use Direct Phonics program as our Wave 3 intervention ........has anyone used it and if so what is your opinion?
AnonyMouse_79 Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Ive never heard of it until now, found this. But why change from Jolly Phonics?
AnonyMouse_4544 Posted December 6, 2006 Author Posted December 6, 2006 The idea is to use it as an intervention programme for children who arent making good progress. Im not convinced its the right thing for us as its totally against everything else we do in school (it looks uninspiring) but Im willing to be convinced! A number of schools in my area have been allocated an EP and a LST to work with the school for 10 weeks!!! The LST says shes used this programme and EVERY child has made progress! (Still NOT convinced) just hoped someone had first hand experience to say yes its great (or not)
AnonyMouse_4544 Posted December 6, 2006 Author Posted December 6, 2006 Year 1 initially possible end of reception.
Guest Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 Hi, i've just had a look at the powerpoint on their website and its seems to be really similar to ERR which we use and is also mentioned towards the end of the powerpoint. ERR works quite well for us in Reception and Year 1 although in its basic format it is very boring and monotonous. As a result reception and Yr.1 combine elements of JP. If I were you i'd stick with JP Marion!
AnonyMouse_3307 Posted December 7, 2006 Posted December 7, 2006 if it's wave 3 presumably this will be with individuals who are significantly behind/needing support and for whom the regular programme isn't working. Don't know the programme but would check to see how it works on a 1 -1 basis/can be delivered by whoever would be delivering it.Also presumably this would be part of an IEP? Cx
AnonyMouse_4544 Posted December 8, 2006 Author Posted December 8, 2006 The LST is talking about 20 minutes a day so not sure how we would manage the time for one to one as she wants us to work with 6 children for an evaluation period of 10 weeks.
AnonyMouse_3307 Posted December 10, 2006 Posted December 10, 2006 (edited) Sounds more like wave 2 then? Is this identified on your whole school provision mapping? What criteria are being used to determine underachievement at this stage in development, although spring term Y1 is a usual focus for wave 2 interventions like ELS and the like. CErtainly doesn't sound like wave 3 to me From strategy site: The NNS and NLS have developed a model of intervention for children experiencing difficulties in literacy and mathematics, based on three waves: * Wave 1 - The effective inclusion of all children in a high quality literacy hour and daily mathematics lesson by differentiating learning objectives within the teaching programmes appropriately. * Wave 2 - Small group intervention for children who can be expected to catch up with their peers as a result of the intervention, such as Springboard programmes. * Wave 3 - Specific targeted intervention for children identified as requiring SEN support. Children at Wave 3 may have particular needs related specifically to mathematics or needs associated with other barriers to their learning. Provision at Wave 3 is likely to draw on specialist advice. It may involve the adjustment of learning objectives and teaching styles, and/or individual support. It aims to reduce gaps in attainment and facilitate greater access to Waves 1 and 2. Children receiving Wave 3 support will always be placed on School Action and on School Action Plus if an external agency is involved in assessment, planning and review. That might help you. The actual page is here Cx Edited December 10, 2006 by catma
AnonyMouse_4544 Posted December 10, 2006 Author Posted December 10, 2006 (edited) No it isnt wave 2 as we already have this in place for the spring term as you say. Our LA has asked a number of schools to work with external agencies each has had a LST allocated and a EP and has received additional funding to undertake the Wave 3 program. The LST will come into school and carry out assessments at the beginning and end of the program but the program will be delivered by the class teacher. As SENCO I am happy about the Wave 3 but I have misgivings about the suitabiity of Direct Phonics which has not been chosen by the school but by external agencies. Edited December 10, 2006 by Marion
AnonyMouse_3307 Posted December 10, 2006 Posted December 10, 2006 Ahh, I'm with you now! It does sound a bit odd though as you say, it's not something the school has decided and I would be asking who's teaching the rest of the children while the teacher is delivering intervention programmes for a total of 1hr 40 mins a week, which doesn't include prep or evaluation time!! Does Rose's criteria for a phonics programme carry any weight here???
AnonyMouse_4544 Posted December 10, 2006 Author Posted December 10, 2006 Its actually 1hr 40 mins a day! Which is worse!!
AnonyMouse_3307 Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 (edited) even more bizarre - how does this person see the delivery of this programme working? SUrely the teacher can't be required to take up nearly 2/5ths of the day on an intervention programme - Sounds very odd. Edited December 11, 2006 by catma
AnonyMouse_4544 Posted December 12, 2006 Author Posted December 12, 2006 No she intends assessing the children before the intervention doing a twilight training session the following day then returning after 10 weeks to re assess (in her words record the improvement) then feedback to staff.
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