Going Beyond The Nneb

[Guest]

I completed an ADCE in 1996, then later went on to complete a diploma in Early Years Education at Manchester Met (two years part time study but the big 'C' interfering with my final year to gain BA .Hons). I too was led to believe that ADCE would be recognised at level 4 but have since found this not to be the case, so I contacted CACHE in January and recieved this reply

 

Thank you for your enquiry

 

 

 

The ADCE was written at a level 4 standard. It was designed as a post qualifying diploma for candidates who had already achieved a level 3 qualification within the profession and who wanted to further there knowledge and enter specific areas of the childcare sector.

 

 

 

The ADCE is not on the National Qualification Framework (NQF) because when it was written the NQF did not include level 4 qualifications. The ADCE is an old qualification that was not designed for the NQF and therefore has never been put on because there are too many changes that would need to have been made and the qualification would have had to be re written completely.

 

 

 

However this does not mean that your qualification is not valid. The ADCE is still recognized as a post-qualifying diploma, which shows the candidate has obtained specialist knowledge within the profession. On top of this most Universities recognize that the ADCE is a highly regarded qualification as it carries with it 120 CAT’s points.

hope this information is of help.

 

 

 

Kind Regards

 

 

 

James Thorpe

 

CACHE Customer Service and Information Advisor

 

As I felt I needed some form of recognition I applied for HLTA staus, which I gained in 3 months. My previous studies had added to my knowledge, improved my practice, and enabled me to meet the standards. But as previously stated HLTA is a status that proves the candidate is working reflectively and effectively, but does not add to knowledge or skills. I am considering doing a FD but am of a similar mind to Peggy wondering if in a few years time it too will be 'out of date'.

 

Coo what a long post - sorry!

 

 

 

 

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[AnonyMouse_4544]

why should that happen Marion when the Foundation Degree is a DEGREE and not a status.

It just sems wrong. we were assured at the start that it would mean more

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She feels she has put alot of effort (as her mentor I did too) for nothing and should have some recognition for this qualification.

Edited February 11, 2006 by MARl0N

[Guest]

i feel that this qualification may be of great benefit in the future to people working in surestart and other preschool nurseries.

I don't believe it will be recognised in schools.

 

having started the FD 2 years ago, we had one tutor come into the room and promote this new HLTA status. We were rightly concerned as were were just starting out.

 

Anyway, got rtesults this week and have passed

[Guest]

I qualified as an NNEB in 1978, and then did my foundation course with the PPA in 1991. (to keep up to date) Then in 1997 I did my ADCE which I did over two years attending college for 5 hours every Wednesday evening after work and Saturdays all day once a month. I did 5 modules and a dissertation. I felt it was hard work especially as i had a fulltime deputy post and two children at school at the time, and I moved house twice while I was doing it.So i felt it was a real achievement for me, but felt it wasn't as recognised as it should be. Unlike the NVQ Level 4, I know someone that did this and they didn't do anywhere near the work I did for my ADCE, and she only attended college for 6 hours in total! A lot of her work was the other staff signing to say they had seen her do a task. I felt I learnt a lot doing the course about Childcare, management and about myself. It gave me a lot more confidence as we had to do presentations and liase with other agencies and it also learnt me to network and it was nice to work alongside other students at the same level.

I am now doing my Foundation Degree for personal satisfaction, and because my local council asked me to. I have been told it will be a qualification good enough to manage Childrens centres and if I want to I can carry on to do an Honours degree. I started in October and will hopefully graduate in summer 2007 because I was able to join the 2nd year because of my 120 cat points from ADCE and I have been told I can APL a further 30 points because of my management post and experience as long as i have written evidence from my line manager to prove it.

I don't know whether I will use the FD for anything other than my current job as I have been in the same job for 15 years and am happy there, but it is good to update for OFsted as much as anything else. But also for personal confidence and satisfaction.

Hope this helps

Milly

[AnonyMouse_1027]

good for you milly im also doing it for ME

[Guest]

The Goverment have now just issued a reply to the Workforce Consultation Strategy - and guess what they are coming up with an EYP status (Early Years Professional) just what that will be - who knows - decision to be made by end of 2006 (I think) once again there seem to be so many qualifications down so many routes that really I don't think they know what's what really. I honestly believe there ought to be some standardisation - I know this will be hard to achieve but haven't we already been through this once already in the last few years. It seems to tough on those who have taken time to study and then to be told that this is not considered acceptable for whatever reason.

I know someone said that a lot of it is to do with personal achievement but surely it would be good to have it recognised too.

The workforce strategy reply is on the DFES site - sorry don;t know how to add a link!!!!!!!!!!!

Nikki