Guest Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Hi just wondering if anyone knows when the list of OK commercial phonics programmes will be out by the DFES. Wondering whether I will be carrying on with the one we currently use or whether we will be changing! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 I don't know but I was wondering if anyone knew when the new Playing with Sounds is coming out. I think it's supposed to be soon! Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_2776 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 A new one ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_1208 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Our LEA have given us an outline of recommended schemes with pros and cons for us to choose from, apparently Dfes were going to benchmark schemes, but publishers were not happy in case their schemes weren't benchmarkes so the publishers are going to do this themselves. Very briefly this is what was said about different schemes - Fast Phonics First - fits well but needs schools to plan their own pre-phonic skills to ensure readiness Letterland - not really synthetic phonics as doesn't advocate blending and segmenting until all single letter sounds introduced. RML - Ruth Miskin Literacy - fits well, but prescribes texts to be used etd, may not be broad enough Jolly Phonics - fits well but needs schools to plan their own pre-phonic skills to ensure readiness New Dfes scheme - not yet finalised or published, but fits all criteria. We currently use Jolly Phonics, but I did like the look of Fast Phonics First and the new Dfes scheme sounds good, but don't know when it will be published, so we may continue with JP then see what else comes up in the future, publishers will all be jumping on the bandwagon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_2732 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Does anyone have any comment to make on the Smart Phonics scheme? Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_1195 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 One local authority I know recommends something called POPPAT. I didn't take to it myself but i know practitioners who love it. Does anyone have experience of this one? Sorry POPAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_3307 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 son of PWS expected after Easter - I have a draft version for consultation which ends tomorrow, but if i told you about it they would have to kill me. (it's got a confidentiality clause built in) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_79 Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_4544 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 (edited) http://www.standards.dfes.gov.uk/phonics/ The DfES have just published the list of phonics schemes. Unfortunately they have asked the publishers to complete self assessments in order to be included on the list rather than giving us an unbiased evaluation. Jolly Phonics isn't on the list at the moment. Edited March 28, 2007 by Marion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_3307 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 son of playing with sounds ( again the proper name is still under embargo and they can't tell us) is due end of April / start of May. So that will be September then. CX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 At a meeting last night regarding auditing provision for CLL They say the new PWS will have far more material within it particularly at Phase 1 (Nursery) It is coming with CD-Rom so Interactive resources. Will be available from mid-to late May Apparently Jolly Phonics are going to writie an extra supplement to their scheme in line with the outcome from Rose review We are having Ann Foster to do Phonics training with Nursery to Yr 6 teachers! Lots of Year 3 + children who still need a discrete phonics session don't get it! We will then track phonics across the age range The other issue raised was tracking speaking and listening (which is very poor on entry to our school) across the age phase - anyone any ideas Thanks Becky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_73 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 is the son of playing with sounds, the 'letters and sounds'? Where have I read that then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_79 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 That was the name on the new phonics website that I accessed yesterday via an email link I think but it was on standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_4544 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 http://www.standards.dfes.gov.uk/phonics/ "The Primary National Strategy will soon be withdrawing 'Playing with Sounds' and 'Progression in Phonics' and replacing them by publishing 'Letters and Sounds', a new resource for teaching high quality phonic work. It is due to be published early in the summer term and will be made available online. We are not promoting 'Letters and Sounds' as the preferred phonics programme, merely one that will meet the core criteria, and early years settings and schools are free to choose commercial programmes if they wish. However, schools and settings should not delay in assessing their teaching requirements and selecting and using an effective phonics support programme." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tinkerbell Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Were the government also going to give us some recommendations for reading schemes that fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_1208 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Not anymore, publishers will do their own accreditation, deciding if they fit the new criteria. Those that have already done so are on the link previously provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Devon say May for son of playing with sounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonyMouse_4544 Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Hi rendellers and welcome to the forum. I see you decided to join after all hope you find it helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 i think the new one is called sounds and letters or something like that available early summer term- the schools should all be getting copies for foundation and year 1 then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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